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fragile_bloom wrote:Question 1: The names used in the Japanese-Chinese translation is very different from those in the Japanese-English translation. Can somebody tell me the following:
"Lian Ling" = Renrin
"Fang Ling" = ?? The girl kirin who visited Kei with her king. She is playful like Enki. Almost a reflection of Enki. Her kingdom is 300 years old and very rich. She and Renrin played a crucial role in finding Taiki.
峯麟 is hourin, pronounced "fenglin" in chinese.
The girl kirin who visited Kei with her king. She is playful like Enki. Almost a reflection of Enki. Her kingdom is 300 years old and very rich.
beranda wrote:I didn't read the book, so i can't claim anything for sure, but isn't it HANRIN?
nightchaser wrote: En-o temporarily placed him on the En registry as a refugee, then went to Horai to make Taiki a Senin and bring him through Shoku to Kei.
I won't speculate romance between Taiki and Youko based on that conversation, it was very superficial. I understand the language in those passages. They did become good friends.
I wonder if Asen did the same thing with Gyousou that Atsuyu did to his father. Maybe Gyousou is alive somewhere locked away by Asen. It seems to me that after their plan to kill Taiki failed (when Taiki invoked meishoku and escaped to Hourai), they had to change plans and keep Gyousou alive so that Taiki could not select another ruler right away. It might also have been their plan all along to simply incapacitate them both so that no new ruler would emerge.
nightchaser wrote:Bringing him back to Kei would also kill him because only Senin can pass through Shoku.
fragile_bloom wrote:Yes, Niwashi, Youko brought this point up to the group but they said her case was different. She is the ligitimate ruler of Kei. She can pass through shoku. Taiki however, is human when they found him, he is not a Kirin. In the novels, I understand that only Youko went through Shoku, her friends did not accompany her. That part was added into the animation.
Hazel wrote:It'll be interesting to see how they change this to work in the anime then, if they do animate it
He always felt something scary was making its way to him.
Why does Taiki have to be a Sen'nin in order to pass through a Shoku, when other people don't?
Youko brought this point up to the group but they said her case was different.
I was active in the thread "Speculative Romance" and some readers hyped on the Youko-Taiki conversation as a possibility of Romance. I started reading that passage but really cannot put the two together.
Niwashi2 wrote:Kaikyaku are ordinary humans who get blown from Hourai to the Twelve Kingdoms through Shoku, and they generally seem to survive it. Or is this simply a rule against anyone being allowed to deliberately bring an ordinary human through a Shoku? (That would be a bit problematic for the anime, of course.)
But one day I thought - well the army is mostly men... Oops, this is supposed to be a PG forum... I'll stop now
This book has to be read in detail, sentence by sentence and viewed as a whole. If you lift sentences here and there, you may get a very wrong picture of the whole story
By the way, from the translation i didn't gather that her tantrum was so awful or insulting for En-ou. Personally, i thought that it was simply superficial and stupid, but not terrible or personally insulting. I didn't see that her officials were scared by her reaction so far. Maybe their responces are still untranslated? But Keiki doesn't seem to take it to the heart and their conversation is translated. He just mentions that En-ou looked puzzled (mind you, not offended or outraged).
I'm not speculating any romance between Youko and Shouryuu, she is not ready.
Koukan had a long conversation with her, unfortunately I don't understand the Koukan's language but at one point he questioned Risai's motives for asking for help.
I hate Risai after reading the novel. She took advantage of Kei-O's inexperience and kind heart.
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